I'm a straight guy in my mid-50's. I'm not Christian, but I believe in God I don't believe that the Bible is not in the literal word of God, but a good guide that is filled with good life lessons. The God I believe in is a loving God, not a God to be feared. The God I believe in IS an awesome God.
We don't know each other. Hell, Jake is just my pen name. So why am I telling you all of this? Well, I got into conversations with friends and online about the fall of DOMA, and as I write about it now, I want you to know where I'm coming from.
So, what I wanna know it's this: why the hell are the right wingnuts getting their panties in a bunch over the fall of DOMA? Can anybody tell me why, without getting into religious arguments, fear of this opening the door to our being able to marry children, animals, rocks, or have many spouses, why the hell it should matter whether a married couple is straight or gay? Further, Mr, Mrs, or Miss Uptight Conservative, what business is it off yours?
I get that Christians believe that homosexuality is an abomination. What the fuck does that have to do with the law? We are not, repeat, NOT a Christian country. In fact, if memory serves, the Pilgrims came to this new world to practise freedom of religion, didn't they? Doesn't freedom of religion include freedom from religion?
I also get that homosexuality doesn't fit in with many people's worldview. So what? The world is changing and so are attitudes towards gay rights. You gotta roll with the changes or they'll roll over you. You have the right to your opinion, but that opinion isn't a club to beat down someone else's rights.
That, my friends, was what DOMA is all about. Denying equality under the law.
Defense of Marriage.
Look at it. Did DOMA really do anything to preserve marriage? Did it do anything to strengthen the institution of marriage? Did it make it harder to end a marriage? No. So what did it defend?
It defended the the right to discriminate against a group of people. It basically said that LGBT partners who want to marry were NOT equal under the law.
How is that fair? Doesn't the Declaration of Independence say "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ask men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
Like it or not, SCOTUS did the right thing.
So why can't same-sex marriages be called civil unions, and have done with it? They'll have the same rights as hetero- sexual couples, right? Technically, yes, but separate but equal doesn't work. A different name implies that you are different, you are a member of an underclass, and we have to set different rules for you. People, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, than calling it a pigeon doesn't change the fact that it's a duck.
The religious right say that homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God. Bullshit! Doesn't the Bible yeah that we are made in God's image? I don't recall it saying only white Christians are made in his image. So if we are all made in His image than that includes EVERYbody. So now God's work is imperfect? How arrogant is that?
Also calling the LGBT community abominations I'd kinda judgmental, don'cha think? Doesn't that fall into God's bailiwick? Judge not, lest ye be judged. Sound familiar?
Don't even get me started with the slippery slope argument. This is not gonna open the door to marrying children, dogs or rocks, as conservatives like to argue. Without consent, you can't marry. Children are too young to consent, animals and rocks have no capacity to consent, so get off that train. It makes you look stupid.
So in the end, the end of DOMA is a good thing. It gives the LGBT community a certain amount of respect; not enough, but that will happen.
If you don't agree, I'd like to here about it, as long as the disagreements aren't based on religion, prejudice, or the slippery slope argument.
I'd also like to know how you think a same-sex marriage is gonna hurt your straight union.
We don't know each other. Hell, Jake is just my pen name. So why am I telling you all of this? Well, I got into conversations with friends and online about the fall of DOMA, and as I write about it now, I want you to know where I'm coming from.
So, what I wanna know it's this: why the hell are the right wingnuts getting their panties in a bunch over the fall of DOMA? Can anybody tell me why, without getting into religious arguments, fear of this opening the door to our being able to marry children, animals, rocks, or have many spouses, why the hell it should matter whether a married couple is straight or gay? Further, Mr, Mrs, or Miss Uptight Conservative, what business is it off yours?
I get that Christians believe that homosexuality is an abomination. What the fuck does that have to do with the law? We are not, repeat, NOT a Christian country. In fact, if memory serves, the Pilgrims came to this new world to practise freedom of religion, didn't they? Doesn't freedom of religion include freedom from religion?
I also get that homosexuality doesn't fit in with many people's worldview. So what? The world is changing and so are attitudes towards gay rights. You gotta roll with the changes or they'll roll over you. You have the right to your opinion, but that opinion isn't a club to beat down someone else's rights.
That, my friends, was what DOMA is all about. Denying equality under the law.
Defense of Marriage.
Look at it. Did DOMA really do anything to preserve marriage? Did it do anything to strengthen the institution of marriage? Did it make it harder to end a marriage? No. So what did it defend?
It defended the the right to discriminate against a group of people. It basically said that LGBT partners who want to marry were NOT equal under the law.
How is that fair? Doesn't the Declaration of Independence say "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ask men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?
Like it or not, SCOTUS did the right thing.
So why can't same-sex marriages be called civil unions, and have done with it? They'll have the same rights as hetero- sexual couples, right? Technically, yes, but separate but equal doesn't work. A different name implies that you are different, you are a member of an underclass, and we have to set different rules for you. People, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, than calling it a pigeon doesn't change the fact that it's a duck.
The religious right say that homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God. Bullshit! Doesn't the Bible yeah that we are made in God's image? I don't recall it saying only white Christians are made in his image. So if we are all made in His image than that includes EVERYbody. So now God's work is imperfect? How arrogant is that?
Also calling the LGBT community abominations I'd kinda judgmental, don'cha think? Doesn't that fall into God's bailiwick? Judge not, lest ye be judged. Sound familiar?
Don't even get me started with the slippery slope argument. This is not gonna open the door to marrying children, dogs or rocks, as conservatives like to argue. Without consent, you can't marry. Children are too young to consent, animals and rocks have no capacity to consent, so get off that train. It makes you look stupid.
So in the end, the end of DOMA is a good thing. It gives the LGBT community a certain amount of respect; not enough, but that will happen.
If you don't agree, I'd like to here about it, as long as the disagreements aren't based on religion, prejudice, or the slippery slope argument.
I'd also like to know how you think a same-sex marriage is gonna hurt your straight union.
